Comments on: Round and Round; Or, How Not to Design a Parking Garage http://starkravingcalm.com/archives/round-and-round a mad writer's blogoratory Tue, 09 Mar 2010 01:04:07 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9 hourly 1 By: SheliaCONWAY34 http://starkravingcalm.com/archives/round-and-round/comment-page-1#comment-73712 SheliaCONWAY34 Tue, 09 Mar 2010 01:04:07 +0000 http://starkravingcalm.com/?p=109#comment-73712 <p>When you are in uncomfortable position and have no cash to move out from that, you will have to take the <a href="http://lowest-rate-loans.com/topics/business-loans" rel="nofollow">business loans</a>. Because it will aid you emphatically. I get bank loan every year and feel fine just because of that.</p> When you are in uncomfortable position and have no cash to move out from that, you will have to take the business loans. Because it will aid you emphatically. I get bank loan every year and feel fine just because of that.

]]> By: Joseph http://starkravingcalm.com/archives/round-and-round/comment-page-1#comment-2797 Joseph Tue, 31 Oct 2006 23:55:25 +0000 http://starkravingcalm.com/?p=109#comment-2797 <p><strong>Good news...</strong></p> <pre><code> ...and that is how we know the Earth to be banana-shaped. </code></pre> <p>...</p> Good news…

  ...and that is how we know the Earth to be banana-shaped.

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]]> By: olivier blanchard http://starkravingcalm.com/archives/round-and-round/comment-page-1#comment-479 olivier blanchard Sun, 04 Dec 2005 23:01:16 +0000 http://starkravingcalm.com/?p=109#comment-479 <p>I've gotten caught in parking garage exit traffic after trade shows and sporting event, and you make a damn good point.</p> <p>Even from a safety standpoint, being able to evacuate a parking garage faster would present some serious advantages.</p> I’ve gotten caught in parking garage exit traffic after trade shows and sporting event, and you make a damn good point.

Even from a safety standpoint, being able to evacuate a parking garage faster would present some serious advantages.

]]> By: Bob Brown http://starkravingcalm.com/archives/round-and-round/comment-page-1#comment-473 Bob Brown Sun, 04 Dec 2005 16:26:29 +0000 http://starkravingcalm.com/?p=109#comment-473 <p>I agree that people are in a hurry and wanting to get home at night, but as a person who is only connection with fashion is being fashionably late I appreceiate it being faster to get in.</p> <p>The route for getting in should take you through more areas to find an empty spot. Jonathan, for whatever reason, has been banished to the top so he goes immediately up there and so has the full roundabout experience to grouse about every working day. He is not concerned with getting in because he has to run all the way to the top and he can do it quickly. If a trip to the top took as long as the trip to the bottom does now then the complaint would simply be reversed.</p> I agree that people are in a hurry and wanting to get home at night, but as a person who is only connection with fashion is being fashionably late I appreceiate it being faster to get in.

The route for getting in should take you through more areas to find an empty spot. Jonathan, for whatever reason, has been banished to the top so he goes immediately up there and so has the full roundabout experience to grouse about every working day. He is not concerned with getting in because he has to run all the way to the top and he can do it quickly.
If a trip to the top took as long as the trip to the bottom does now then the complaint would simply be reversed.

]]> By: Peter Cooper http://starkravingcalm.com/archives/round-and-round/comment-page-1#comment-472 Peter Cooper Sun, 04 Dec 2005 13:53:16 +0000 http://starkravingcalm.com/?p=109#comment-472 <p>Public transportation is great for urban-suburban or intra-urban travel, but it kinda sucks for suburb-suburb travel or most rural-urban travel. If you live ten miles out of town, then there's not usually an alternative to driving all the way in.</p> <p>Unless I lived within a ten minute walk of a subway station, I think I'd always put up with expensive and inefficient parking than public transport :)</p> Public transportation is great for urban-suburban or intra-urban travel, but it kinda sucks for suburb-suburb travel or most rural-urban travel. If you live ten miles out of town, then there’s not usually an alternative to driving all the way in.

Unless I lived within a ten minute walk of a subway station, I think I’d always put up with expensive and inefficient parking than public transport :)

]]> By: Juan Del Pueblo http://starkravingcalm.com/archives/round-and-round/comment-page-1#comment-471 Juan Del Pueblo Sun, 04 Dec 2005 00:55:03 +0000 http://starkravingcalm.com/?p=109#comment-471 <p>Even easier, why not just take public transportation? You'd avoid all those hassles. The only reason I could think there's a multi-story parking is because it's in an urban area. Where there's an urban area, there's usually public transportation.</p> Even easier, why not just take public transportation? You’d avoid all those hassles. The only reason I could think there’s a multi-story parking is because it’s in an urban area. Where there’s an urban area, there’s usually public transportation.

]]> By: bryan http://starkravingcalm.com/archives/round-and-round/comment-page-1#comment-468 bryan Sat, 03 Dec 2005 02:18:19 +0000 http://starkravingcalm.com/?p=109#comment-468 <p>Having driven in the garage, Mark, I disagree. There are at least 3 ways the garage could be made more efficient without changing the structure at all.</p> <p>1) The center lane could be up in the morning, down afternoon. 2) The center lane could be two-way.</p> <p>and at the very least, 3) They could reverse the traffic so that Peter Cooper's observation that the entrance flow is longer than the exit.</p> Having driven in the garage, Mark, I disagree. There are at least 3 ways the garage could be made more efficient without changing the structure at all.

1) The center lane could be up in the morning, down afternoon.
2) The center lane could be two-way.

and at the very least,
3) They could reverse the traffic so that Peter Cooper’s observation that the entrance flow is longer than the exit.

]]> By: Mark Horstman http://starkravingcalm.com/archives/round-and-round/comment-page-1#comment-467 Mark Horstman Sat, 03 Dec 2005 02:11:45 +0000 http://starkravingcalm.com/?p=109#comment-467 <p>No offense, folks, but the garage is TERRIBLY efficient. It's just not efficient FOR US. It's cheaper to BUILD it that way (ramps are more expensive), for one thing, lowering cost (and therefore increasing potential profits). And, it's clear from the author's comment (he doesn't like his parking space but he parks there anyway) that the builder/owbner might have assumed he would have some sort of monopoly or at least significant pricing/barriers to change powers to justify lowering costs at the expense of trapped customers. I'm not saying I like it...but the customer is NOT the only person in the system. Systems tend to reach equilibrium (hoever tenuous) based on varying TOTALS of satisfaction.</p> <p>Design's impact on customer sat is just one of the variables...</p> No offense, folks, but the garage is TERRIBLY efficient. It’s just not efficient FOR US. It’s cheaper to BUILD it that way (ramps are more expensive), for one thing, lowering cost (and therefore increasing potential profits). And, it’s clear from the author’s comment (he doesn’t like his parking space but he parks there anyway) that the builder/owbner might have assumed he would have some sort of monopoly or at least significant pricing/barriers to change powers to justify lowering costs at the expense of trapped customers.
I’m not saying I like it…but the customer is NOT the only person in the system. Systems tend to reach equilibrium (hoever tenuous) based on varying TOTALS of satisfaction.

Design’s impact on customer sat is just one of the variables…

]]> By: callie http://starkravingcalm.com/archives/round-and-round/comment-page-1#comment-466 callie Fri, 02 Dec 2005 21:59:28 +0000 http://starkravingcalm.com/?p=109#comment-466 <p>ah, yes. if only it were that easy. the card, of course, is not a normal credit card size. it is an oversized square. and we are back to the problem of poor design...</p> ah, yes. if only it were that easy. the card, of course, is not a normal credit card size. it is an oversized square. and we are back to the problem of poor design…

]]> By: Peter Cooper http://starkravingcalm.com/archives/round-and-round/comment-page-1#comment-465 Peter Cooper Fri, 02 Dec 2005 20:35:52 +0000 http://starkravingcalm.com/?p=109#comment-465 <p>Wouldn't you just keep the card in your wallet in that case? Much like how you use your credit card many times each day, so you can with the parking card.</p> <p>It's not a bad idea to keep the card on you, after all, since someone could steal your car and have an easy ride out of the parking lot.</p> Wouldn’t you just keep the card in your wallet in that case? Much like how you use your credit card many times each day, so you can with the parking card.

It’s not a bad idea to keep the card on you, after all, since someone could steal your car and have an easy ride out of the parking lot.

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