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		<title>By: Jonathan</title>
		<link>http://starkravingcalm.com/archives/activewords-vs-quicksilver/comment-page-1#comment-117</link>
		<dc:creator>Jonathan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Aug 2005 16:12:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Buzz:&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Sure, a Mac version would be nice (and if I was a Mac developer I&#039;d jump at the chance), but I use Windows at work.  I installed AW at work hoping to get something approximating the QS experience on Windows.  I&#039;d love to see these improvements made to the Windows version.  The thing that I think would help your software the most is the feedback bit.  I&#039;d like AW to show me command matches in realtime.  I&#039;d really really like it to show me indexed matches off my disk.  You could make the features optional, for existing users who prefer the current interface.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;For users like me -- and I&#039;m guessing there  are a few of us -- who use OSX at home and Windows during the day, the AW interface is a barrier to adoption.  I don&#039;t expect you to make it free (and I don&#039;t expect Quicksilver will remain free forever), but cost is a relatively small obstacle compared to usability.  Like I said before, &quot;better than the start menu&quot; is a good start, but it doesn&#039;t match the interface I have on the Mac.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Thanks for following up.  I&#039;m listening to your chat with Scoble now, BTW.  Good stuff.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Buzz:</p>
<p>Sure, a Mac version would be nice (and if I was a Mac developer I&#8217;d jump at the chance), but I use Windows at work.  I installed AW at work hoping to get something approximating the QS experience on Windows.  I&#8217;d love to see these improvements made to the Windows version.  The thing that I think would help your software the most is the feedback bit.  I&#8217;d like AW to show me command matches in realtime.  I&#8217;d really really like it to show me indexed matches off my disk.  You could make the features optional, for existing users who prefer the current interface.</p>
<p>For users like me &#8212; and I&#8217;m guessing there  are a few of us &#8212; who use OSX at home and Windows during the day, the AW interface is a barrier to adoption.  I don&#8217;t expect you to make it free (and I don&#8217;t expect Quicksilver will remain free forever), but cost is a relatively small obstacle compared to usability.  Like I said before, &#8220;better than the start menu&#8221; is a good start, but it doesn&#8217;t match the interface I have on the Mac.</p>
<p>Thanks for following up.  I&#8217;m listening to your chat with Scoble now, BTW.  Good stuff.</p>
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		<title>By: Buzz Bruggeman</title>
		<link>http://starkravingcalm.com/archives/activewords-vs-quicksilver/comment-page-1#comment-116</link>
		<dc:creator>Buzz Bruggeman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Aug 2005 20:51:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;All great ideas....we would love to build a version for the Mac, but the market is small, and you can&#039;t get investment dollars to build Mac software. You also get zero help from Apple. But, if you know a Mac developer that we might work with, my guess is that that end of the day the Mac version of ActiveWords would be dazzling...&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;P.s. We still plan to charge for ActiveWords, no free versions on the horizon..&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All great ideas&#8230;.we would love to build a version for the Mac, but the market is small, and you can&#8217;t get investment dollars to build Mac software. You also get zero help from Apple. But, if you know a Mac developer that we might work with, my guess is that that end of the day the Mac version of ActiveWords would be dazzling&#8230;</p>
<p>P.s. We still plan to charge for ActiveWords, no free versions on the horizon..</p>
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		<title>By: Bren</title>
		<link>http://starkravingcalm.com/archives/activewords-vs-quicksilver/comment-page-1#comment-103</link>
		<dc:creator>Bren</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jul 2005 18:04:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Totally makes sense. Thanks for the links and tips. I&#039;ve got a lot of learning to do with QS, but I&#039;m digging it!&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Totally makes sense. Thanks for the links and tips. I&#8217;ve got a lot of learning to do with QS, but I&#8217;m digging it!</p>
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		<title>By: Jonathan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jonathan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jul 2005 14:41:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Bren:  OK, I found the Action Pad, which you can invoke with Ctrl-Space.  That gets us part of the way.  Still can&#039;t find the option to always hide the toolbar (Monitor Bar?).  Maybe that&#039;s because I&#039;m still using the trial version?&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;[edit] I just found the option that disables the toolbar.  It wasn&#039;t in the options menu (where the rest of the display options are), but in a pop-out &quot;Monitor Bar&quot; menu.  The options seem to be scattered all over.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The Action Pad still doesn&#039;t address the feedback issue.  QS encourages me to learn it by poking around.  When I start typing and see something pop up that I haven&#039;t seen, before, I can tab-and-arrow around and peep all the options.  With AW, I feel like I need to know everything beforehand.
&lt;a href=&quot;http://http://www.candylabs.com/approcket/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;AppRocket&lt;/a&gt; does a much better job at talking back to me, though I feel it&#039;s too gaudy and slow.  And oh yeah, it&#039;s not FREE! :)&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;For the pre-defined text trick, you could use the Shelf or a trigger.  I haven&#039;t been able to poke around much in some of the more power-user features, but I&#039;ve seen refs to them.  Check 43 Folders.&lt;br /&gt;
[edit] Here you go: http://www.43folders.com/2005/06/more_quicksilve.html&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&gt; How â€™bout the append to a text file trick?&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;http://www.43folders.com/2004/09/quicksilver_app.html&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;There&#039;s a saying that the only intuitive interface is the nipple.  Everything else must be learned.  QS definitely requires a different mode of thinking -- and it took awhile for me to really get into it -- but I believe it&#039;s a more &quot;data-centric&quot; mode of thinking.  Everything you can do in QS is oriented towards the data you pipe into it.  Does that make sense?&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bren:  OK, I found the Action Pad, which you can invoke with Ctrl-Space.  That gets us part of the way.  Still can&#8217;t find the option to always hide the toolbar (Monitor Bar?).  Maybe that&#8217;s because I&#8217;m still using the trial version?</p>
<p>[edit] I just found the option that disables the toolbar.  It wasn&#8217;t in the options menu (where the rest of the display options are), but in a pop-out &#8220;Monitor Bar&#8221; menu.  The options seem to be scattered all over.</p>
<p>The Action Pad still doesn&#8217;t address the feedback issue.  QS encourages me to learn it by poking around.  When I start typing and see something pop up that I haven&#8217;t seen, before, I can tab-and-arrow around and peep all the options.  With AW, I feel like I need to know everything beforehand.<br />
<a href="http://http://www.candylabs.com/approcket/" rel="nofollow">AppRocket</a> does a much better job at talking back to me, though I feel it&#8217;s too gaudy and slow.  And oh yeah, it&#8217;s not FREE! <img src='http://starkravingcalm.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>For the pre-defined text trick, you could use the Shelf or a trigger.  I haven&#8217;t been able to poke around much in some of the more power-user features, but I&#8217;ve seen refs to them.  Check 43 Folders.<br />
[edit] Here you go: <a href="http://www.43folders.com/2005/06/more_quicksilve.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.43folders.com/2005/06/more_quicksilve.html</a></p>
<p>&gt; How â€™bout the append to a text file trick?</p>
<p><a href="http://www.43folders.com/2004/09/quicksilver_app.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.43folders.com/2004/09/quicksilver_app.html</a></p>
<p>There&#8217;s a saying that the only intuitive interface is the nipple.  Everything else must be learned.  QS definitely requires a different mode of thinking &#8212; and it took awhile for me to really get into it &#8212; but I believe it&#8217;s a more &#8220;data-centric&#8221; mode of thinking.  Everything you can do in QS is oriented towards the data you pipe into it.  Does that make sense?</p>
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		<title>By: Bren</title>
		<link>http://starkravingcalm.com/archives/activewords-vs-quicksilver/comment-page-1#comment-101</link>
		<dc:creator>Bren</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jul 2005 04:59:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Good notes. One response and a couple of comments.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;You mention the AW toolbar has only two options. There&#039;s actually a third where you hide the toolbar at all times and invoke a &quot;mini&quot; version of it when needed.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I&#039;m writing this on the new PB. Very nice! I&#039;m also experimenting with QS, and the going is laborious, quite honestly. I didn&#039;t expect it to be easy, but I at least expected it to be easy to decode. There are a couple of things I want to do and I just can&#039;t figure it out. First, I want some way to easily drop pre-defined text into text fields. My email addy is the prime example. It&#039;s long and I hate typing it. How can QS automate that for me?&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;How &#039;bout the append to a text file trick? Heard about it, but can&#039;t find instructions.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;On the other hand, I&#039;m digging how fast I can launch stuff with QS. I don&#039;t really have any data on the pb yet, but it&#039;s quick at finding what I do have.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Since this is the first time in my life I&#039;ve spent more than a couple of minutes with a mac, I&#039;m struggling against the new interface as well as new applications. It&#039;s easy, but not quite intuitive. I used to say that Windows was pretty intuitive. I guess stuff gets more &quot;intuitive&quot; the longer you use it. :-)&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good notes. One response and a couple of comments.</p>
<p>You mention the AW toolbar has only two options. There&#8217;s actually a third where you hide the toolbar at all times and invoke a &#8220;mini&#8221; version of it when needed.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m writing this on the new PB. Very nice! I&#8217;m also experimenting with QS, and the going is laborious, quite honestly. I didn&#8217;t expect it to be easy, but I at least expected it to be easy to decode. There are a couple of things I want to do and I just can&#8217;t figure it out. First, I want some way to easily drop pre-defined text into text fields. My email addy is the prime example. It&#8217;s long and I hate typing it. How can QS automate that for me?</p>
<p>How &#8217;bout the append to a text file trick? Heard about it, but can&#8217;t find instructions.</p>
<p>On the other hand, I&#8217;m digging how fast I can launch stuff with QS. I don&#8217;t really have any data on the pb yet, but it&#8217;s quick at finding what I do have.</p>
<p>Since this is the first time in my life I&#8217;ve spent more than a couple of minutes with a mac, I&#8217;m struggling against the new interface as well as new applications. It&#8217;s easy, but not quite intuitive. I used to say that Windows was pretty intuitive. I guess stuff gets more &#8220;intuitive&#8221; the longer you use it. <img src='http://starkravingcalm.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Bryan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jul 2005 04:53:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;The one that looks like an alarm clock says â€œProductivity Centerâ€? when I hover over it. I rest my case.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

&lt;p&gt;That sounds just dandy.  I&#039;m glad you posted these points and came up with a good rebuttal for each of them.  Thanks!&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>The one that looks like an alarm clock says â€œProductivity Centerâ€? when I hover over it. I rest my case.</p></blockquote>
<p>That sounds just dandy.  I&#8217;m glad you posted these points and came up with a good rebuttal for each of them.  Thanks!</p>
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